Showing posts with label doug flutie. Show all posts
Showing posts with label doug flutie. Show all posts

Monday, March 2, 2009

The Mt. Rushmore of Boston College Athletics

Brian: Today we unveil our BC Mt. Rushmore. But first, let’s take a look at the final standings from our reader sidebar poll:
  1. Doug Flutie – 201 votes (85%)
  2. Jerry York – 166 votes (70%)
  3. Matt Ryan – 125 votes (52%)
  4. William J. Flynn – 85 votes (36%)
  5. Troy Bell – 70 votes (29%)
  6. John "Snooks" Kelley – 37 votes (15%)
  7. Bill Curley – 30 votes (12%)
  8. Frank Leahy – 30 votes (12%)
  9. Tom O’Brien – 26 votes (11%)
  10. Al Skinner – 24 votes (10%)
  11. Write-In Vote – 21 votes (8%)
  12. Charlie O’Rourke – 13 votes (5%)
  13. Art Donovan – 10 votes (4%)
  14. Mike Mottau – 8 votes (3%)
Thanks to our readers for the over 200 votes we received on this poll. So the reader’s version of Mt. Rushmore ended up being Flutie, York, Ryan and Flynn.
  • Doug Flutie – mmb1980 wrote "... there's no way Flutie doesn't make the cut."
  • Jerry York – Christian wrote "As good as some guys like Gionta, Gerbe, and Mottau were, they were only on for a max of 4 years. York has led BC to 2 National Titles and 5 title game appearances in the past 9 years. He IS BC hockey."
  • Matt Ryanfurrer4heisman wrote "I'm an outsider, but I would vote yes simply because Matt Ryan made me question my belief in God."
  • William J. Flynn – Ed wrote "If the criterion is impact on Boston College athletics, Flynn is #1 and #2 is not even in the picture. The reason there are blogs about BC sports, multiple internet message boards about BC sports, and Big Least fans bitter about BC moving to the ACC, is because of Bill Flynn. If not for Bill Flynn, BC is Holy Cross."
An admirable mountain of four, but my largest gripe with this list is the inclusion of Matt Ryan. Readers were split on voting Ryan onto the mountain. In the pro-Ryan camp, mmb1980 wrote "To me, Ryan's a no-brainer. But some may argue against having two former QBs."

In the anti-Ryan camp, Lally wrote "I'd view the BC Mt. Rushmore as a testament to who built the school's sports and solidified their reputation. Therefore, while Ryan is on the short list of the 'Best Evers' when it comes to BC, I'd have to place Snooks Kelley on the mount ahead of him."

Reader Erik added to this anti-Ryan sentiment: "I would like to put up a "VOTE NO" on Matt Ryan argument. I haven't thought it all the way through, I love the guy and he was really good here, but there's gotta be 4 better in the history in the entire school. If he makes it, its only because of the additional off-field achievements related to hype, PR, draft success, etc."

It's a tough call for Ryan. I’m just not sold on the impact Ryan will have on the football program going forward ... even if ESPN's Merrill Hoge thinks Ryan will be the most dominant athlete over the next 10 years.

Jeff, you and I had some lengthy discussions about who to include on the mountain. Never did we question including Flutie or York and much of the debate revolved around the final two BC greats.

If I had to construct my own BC Mt. Rushmore, it would have been:
  • Doug Flutie - again, a no-brainer
  • William J. Flynn - saved the football program from going the way of the dinosaur and Boston University football
  • Al Skinner - the most successful men's basketball coach in program history
  • Jerry York - accomplishments speak for themselves
I was not very sold on including Al Skinner, given the relative importance of Boston College basketball over the entire life of the athletics department. I could have easily replaced Skinner with "Snooks" Kelley. Kelley not only won the National Championship in 1949, but he also coached Len Ceglarski and Jerry York, thus beginning our succession of three great, great BC ice hockey bench bosses.

I ultimately settled on Skinner over both Matt Ryan and Troy Bell. Skinner has proved that he can do it more than once without Troy Bell, recruiting Craig Smith, Jared Dudley and Tyrese Rice and sustaining great success in both the Big East and the ACC. Judging by the fan vote, Skinner would be a controversial pick given that he finished 10th in the fan voting.

Jeff: If I were posting my own BC Mt. Rushmore, it would go something like this:
  • Doug Flutie – Flutie for obvious reasons. It is ridiculous that he wasn’t 100% in our poll.
  • Al Skinner – Skinner for bringing BC men’s basketball to a sustained level of excellence never seen before at BC
  • Jerry York – York for bringing 2 national championships to the Heights along with many Frozen Four appearances.
  • The entire Hasselbeck family?? Tom O’Brien?? Probably a football player?? Spaziani??
I am not placing an athletics director on my Mt. Rushmore because an AD is rarely the face of your athletic department. Stars are the face of your AD. Coaches nowadays are stars too as they have become household names with the internet and ESPN. Hell, even assistant coaches are household names now. Coaches also last longer than 4 years.

Brian: I agree with what you said generally about ADs but I feel like Flynn is our George Washington/founding father. Without him, like Ed said, we are Holy Cross. For that, I can make an exception.

Jeff: My Mt. Rushmore is very modern perhaps because of my ignorance of not knowing the former greats at BC. But it was thought out and I think anyone's Mt. Rushmore should be frontloaded because BC is currently going through its greatest era of sports ever - only one losing season in the three major sports since 2000 and two men’s ice hockey national championships.

Brian: Since life is all about compromise, we agreed on 3 of 4, and you couldn’t make up your mind on the fourth BC great, we settled on these four BC greats to be chiseled onto the Mt. Rushmore of BC Athletics. Drumroll please.



Doug Flutie, William J. Flynn, Al Skinner, Jerry York

To a fault, perhaps we went too heavy on the coaches and administrators, but at the end of the day, student athletes only have four years max to make an impact on the university. And really, all Boston Coll. student athletes live in the shadow of Doug Flutie. Coaches and administrators have a bit of a leg up on athletes given that they can leave a more lasting mark on the school and our athletics programs.

Thanks for everyone's comments and contributions to our BC Mt. Rushmore. Also, special thanks to Christian for the Rushmore graphic. Feel free to chime in on our mountain in the comments section.

Saturday, January 31, 2009

Mt. Rushmore: Doug Flutie

We continue our profile of Boston College sports greats to arrive at our BC athletics make-believe Mt. Rushmore...

Name: Doug Flutie
Born: October 1962 in Catonsville, MD
Sport: Football
BC Era: 1981-1984


Why He's In
  • Broke the program's 39-year bowl drought by leading the team to the 1982 Tangerine Bowl, the 1983 Liberty Bowl and the 1985 Cotton Bowl
  • Defeated Miami 47-45 on probably the most memorable play in college football history
  • On his famous "Hail Mary!" pass completion to Gerard Phelan, he threw the ball 65 yards in the air
  • Led the program to its last major bowl win, defeating Houston 45-28 in the 1985 Cotton Bowl.
  • The Eagles would finish the 1984 season 10-2 and would match the highest final AP ranking (No. 5) in program history.
  • Our school's only Heisman Trophy winner
  • Flutie's hardware from his 1984 season also includes the Maxwell Award (player of the year), Walter Camp Award (player of the year), UPI, Kodak and The Sporting News Player of the Year and Davey O'Brien Award (best quarterback)
  • Left school in 1984 as the NCAA’s all-time passing yardage leader with 10,579 yards and total yards with 11,318
  • Holds Eagles records for single-game passing yards (520) and single-game passing TDs (6)
  • Also smart! Rhodes Scholar finalist
  • Creator of the (somewhat controversial) "Flutie Effect" theory - the phenomenon of having a successful college sports team increase the exposure for a university (after the 1984 football season, undergrad applications surged 16 percent in 1984 and 12 percent in 1985).
  • Sports Illustrated cover boy four times (2 times as a B.C. Eagle)
  • Already has a statue commemorating his Hail Mary pass outside of Alumni Stadium

Maybe Not?
  • Um ... he never beat Notre Dame?

X-Factor
  • Acronym which includes his name reminds unknowing co-eds the order of the four main buildings in the Quad
  • (We know we said pro success doesn't count but) Dude's got his own cereal

Quote from the movie Rushmore that may or may not lend credence to his candidacy

Mr. Littlejeans: Best play ever, man.

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Objections?